70 mph is ridiculous. Highways.

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Driving on most highways involves at least 65mph. To go with the flow and on many highways the limit is even higher.

you should be penalized based on the speed limit.
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Hi Tim,

Thanks for getting in touch and I apologize for the delayed response—this post seemed to slip through the cracks.

To clear up any confusion, the 70mph threshold isn't meant to be a behavioral change or a reflection on the speed limit in your area. Rather, multiple studies have proven that driving over 70mph for an extended period of time results in lower fuel economy.

You can find more information regarding this decision in the Official Response from our Head of Product at this post.

As you will find in that post, the scoring isn't meant to penalize you as a driver since the score isn't meant to reflect on how good of a driver one is. Score simply measures your vehicle's fuel efficiency.

We have also added the ability to adjust the threshold of the alerts you get, so you can change that to the speed limits in your area. However, this will not the change the 70mph threshold for score.
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Jeff,

The problem with the approach Automatic has taken is that it doesn't consider other factors such as throttle input.

As an example, I'll cruise on the highway around 65mph. At some points there are steep downward gradient which i'll remove the throttle input... but the car may cruise over 70mph for a short distance. I am not going to deny this advantage by braking (and thus contributing to further wear) for the sake of a maintaining an economy score.

Basically, I'm fine with the setting @ 70, but Automatic should be aware if this speed is obtained under throttle or not - you have the data, since I can see it on the ODB Fusion app.
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Thanks for the feedback, MrP.

I will pass this along to our team. At this time, the product isn't designed to detect what incline the vehicle is on, but that could potentially be something added down the road.

However, given you are not keeping the car at over 70mph for very long since it went there via cruising and not accelerating, this would have very little effect on the Drive Score.

Also, we suggest reading this blog post regarding Drive Score. It clears up the purpose of Drive Score, as well as what it can provide to you as a driver.
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I don't think the incline is the issue that should be measured, there can be other factors involved.

The speed should be looked at in relation to MPG consumption at that point in time. An increase in both speed and MPG would be in indication of some assistance (be it a steep gradient decline, tail wind, tailgating, etc).
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So drive 5 miles an hour slower on 75 MPH highways so we don't get penalized on the app and cause others to try to pass us to go the speed limit. Sounds like automatic is trying to make other people go faster and burn more fuel to get around us (using an automatic) . Does not sound like Automatic is helping fuel concerns if others are burning through fuel to get around us.
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So drive 5 miles an hour slower on 75 MPH highways so we don't get penalized on the app and cause others to try to pass us to go the speed limit. Sounds like automatic is trying to make other people go faster and burn more fuel to get around us (using an automatic) . Does not sound like Automatic is helping fuel concerns if others are burning through fuel to get around us.
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I too have to chip in. You state that deducting points for going over 70 mph isn't geared toward penalizing us for our driving behavior. However, it deducts from the score. You may choose to call it something else, but that's the very definition of a penalty. I went from 99% to 58% on the last driving day of my week for cruising between 70-75 mph for 20 minutes. I never went over 75. Over the whole week, I was motivated to having softer accelerations/decelerations to improve fuel economy and driving score. Now I see that it makes no difference. Either I'm the slow guy going 69 mph in a 75 mph zone or I have a bad score. Automatic is being sent back. You can decide if you want to fail at business or allow people to choose their threshold. This is too ""progressive"" and illogical.
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This post was posted as an individual topic as well. For the response, please see this post.

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