Can I use Automatic in two vehicles and have them set Nest to "away" only when both cars are gone from home?

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I'm wondering if I can put an Automatic in each of my family's two cars, and have them trigger Nest to away status only when both cars leave home?
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Kyle Cramer

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Tom, Former Employee

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Hi Kyle! Thanks for your post. At this time, this functionality is not possible. Rules are tied to individual user accounts and not specific vehicles; this means that rules "move" with you and are not assigned to a specific vehicle (or group of vehicles).

Here are two related FAQs that you might be interested in reviewing:

1. How does the Nest integration work if I have multiple cars?
2. I share a vehicle with multiple drivers. How does the Nest integration work in this case?
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Automatic Nest with 2 cars & 2 adapters?.

I have 2 adapters for our 2 cars and 2 phones connected to 1 Account. How do I set Automatic to not turn Nest to away when one car leaves, but the other person is still at home?
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Hi there, Christopher. I merged your post into a related discussion on using Nest with multiple drivers. This functionality isn't available at this time as rules are tied to individual accounts and don't account for the "presence/location" of other drivers. 

Also, this is somewhat unrelated to your original question, but if you're currently sharing an account with someone else, please note there are some important limitations/caveats in doing so. See this FAQ for more details.
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Thanks Tom. It makes sense to have separate accounts. We will set it up that way. It still doesn't address the issue we have with location awareness. I can't urge you enough to add family accounts and location/presence awareness to your features in the near future. Without them, your product really doesn't integrate well into the daily routines of people, unless they are single and live alone. For me, what your are saying is that your product is a lot less relevant to me than I originally thought, which is terribly disappointing, considering I dropped $200 on your products to find this out.

Imagine, if my wife or I leave for work and the other is still at home, the house goes into "away" mode because Automatic thinks its supposed to do that. Meanwhile, the person who is still at home has to adjust accordingly. Your system is already tracking my location with geofences. It should be able to integrate the location of its users to know that someone is still home.
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No problem, Christopher. I'll be sure to pass this feedback along about the functionality of the Nest integration with multiple users/drivers.
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Is there an update on this? When will you be addressing it?

The fact that families effectively can't use the integration with Nest is pretty sad. I understand that it makes it more complicated to build the software for it, but it effectively makes the Nest integration unusable for a vast group of people.

As Christopher says above, it currently only works for single people who live alone. 
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Try downloading the skylark app. This is the simplest solution for what you want to do.

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