Automatic Pro & 1st Generation Prius?

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How much current does the new Automatic Pro draw when the car is turned off?  We have a first generation Prius which has a tiny "auxiliary" battery in addition to the main hybrid engine battery pack. 

This link https://community.automatic.com/automatic/topics/will_the_link_drain_the_car_battery_even_after_the_engine_is_turned_off_ how_much_power_does_it_consume  answers the question for the 1st generation Automatic.

 What is the current for the newer, Pro model?
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Hi, Lee. That's an old page you've linked in your post which is why it's been archived. Here is our official FAQ about this. The Automatic Pro is about the same - when it's in lower power mode it draws between 5-6mA. And the Pro Setup now includes a battery voltage check. 

What year is your Prius? 
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Hi, Lee. I wanted to chime back in that I've just been informed that the Automatic Pro is not going to work well with a first generation Prius. In fact, it's likely that we'll mark those cars as unsupported. This is because every time the engine shuts off at a stop sign, it gets read as a valid "ignition off" event and will send a "car has parked" notification in the app. 
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Yeah, so the Pro app would probably get annoying really fast for you. We're in the midst of a discussion about marking these cars as unsupported. Your question raised this as a concern. Sorry about that, but I do appreciate you helping us catch this -- even though it's not exactly related to your original question. :)
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Amy, our primary interest in your device is the safety features and the "LoJack" like capability if our car is stolen.  Which functions of the app / device are confused by the "car has parked" reports?  I am guessing we could turn off that notification, and the other functions, such as location, miles traveled, speed, etc would all still be correct?
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Hi, Lee. I chatted with some engineers about this. You still won't have a good experience. Crash Alert only works when the adapter thinks the car is on. So in one of those lulls where it thinks it has detected "ignition off", Crash Alert would not get triggered if you were to get hit. Also, every time ignition off is detected, a trip gets processed. So even if you turned off the trip start / trip end notifications, every trip would get broken up into multiple little trips in your trip timeline.

Finally, Automatic is by no means a replacement for "LoJack". Yes, you can track your car when someone else is driving it, however, there's nothing stopping them from pulling the adapter out of the port.

Bottom line, we can't recommend Automatic for a first gen Prius as we just don't think you'll have a good experience (and are changing the compatibility setting in our car database to reflect this). If you choose to give it a try anyway, please keep in mind our 45-day return policy. And let us know how it goes!
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Hi Amy, Would this be a problem for a KIA Optima Hybrid. It also turns off the engine occasionally...

Thank you!
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Hi Fernando - You may occasionally get trips cut up up into short trips because the adapter will think the ignition has been turned off but there shouldn't be any other concerns. To further elaborate, it won't be as bad as a first-generation Prius, which we don't support at all. 
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Interesting -- how about my second generation Prius?
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Hi Stuart - 2nd generation Prius should be fine! 

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