Is internet access a requirement?

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I've read the specs on the API and from that I determine that there are 3 possible points of access to the data produced from Automatic - 1. the firmware itself, meaning the API provides connection to the firmware, 2. the intermediate data storage, that being the SmartPhone device, or 3. some data storage in the cloud or internet. It seems intuitive that the API would provide access to the SmartPhone data (#2) but I just wanted clarification on this.

Additional clarification would be great regarding the SmartPhone requirement. Is it a requirement that the bluetooth device connecting to the Automatic device be a SmartPhone or simply a bluetooth device? Could it be my Macbook (should I decide to travel with it)?

Lastly does the Automatic device detect if an internet connection is established and then what happens to the data if no connection is determined?

I'm very interested in purchasing this device and extending it to share the data to my computer rather than to a device that requires a data service plan. (Perhaps you already have this feature built in.) I realize some of the real-time connection features will be limited, but I'm still interested in the possibility.

This sounds like a great product! I'll be sure to spread the word.
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Nelda Fink
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Hi Nelda, 

The APIs that are publicly available now speak to our cloud, not the smartphone or Automatic Adapter -- #3 on your list.

It is required to use a smartphone -- or rather I should say a device that can run our native iOS or Android application. Some tablets for instance can run the same app (though we do not have any tablet optimized UI). This app is the part that shuttles data from the firmware to the cloud.  

You do NOT need an active internet connection while data is being collected.  It will store on the phone as needed until you're back online, then upload in batch.  So you can use a phone with no plan then upload later over wifi if that's your preference. Of course your trip and other updated vehicle data will not be available via the APIs until such upload is complete.

Adam
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This is still great! I can work with this! I need to put Automatic on my "I need this" list! Thanks for the fast reply!
Nelda
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Hi Adam.. I was just wondering this same question myself and thanks for the post explaining how the data get's from the smartphone to the Automatic cloud. 
By way of further clarification; can you let me know how the data is transmitted under the situation where the Automatic establishes the connection to my iPhone and the iPhone is already connected to the internet.. Can I assume the the data transmitted straight away or is it uploaded in batches periodically?

Sorry - but I don't have my own Automatic as yet (international customer awaiting shipment) so I can't tell if there are any settings in the app to configure this. 

I am planning on building a simple app (using web hooks) that allows me to receive notifications to my Mac / iOS device when someone else is out in the car and (for example) a warning light comes on or even just as simple as starting / stopping the car.  I'd want to know that sooner than when they get home or like 30 minutes later.. 

Thanks in advance

dave
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Hi Dave, 

Anything in the real-time events portion of our API comes immediately: ignition events, hard accels/brakes/speeding, check engine lights, location updates.  You can usually expect these within 10seconds or so of it happening.

The remainder of engine data about the trip is sent up at the end of each trip, presuming an internet connection is present.

Cheers,
Adam

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